Movable type - any experiences??
Posted by admin (Graham Ellis), 6 August 2004Hi folks ... I'm an inveterate writer and I've been persuaded to start a diary / daily log (the in term is "Blog") and I'm at the early stages of experimenting with "Movable Type". Thoughts, readers, comments, feedback welcome. Anyone else blogging??
Posted by Caitlinn (Caitlinn), 9 August 2004Movable Type is a good product. Stable, not too hard to install, documentation is well written, loads of plugins, easy to build templates and huge community support.
I had two personal gripes with MT:
1. Done in Perl which I can't hack as easily as I can hack a PHP system.
2. Their recent licensing fiasco which -- until they cleared it up -- put one of my clients behind schedule.
Whatever blogging system you decide upon, you will have to think about comment spam and how you'd like to handle it. The spammers may not target you at first, but believe me, they will eventually get you.
I'm still on MT 2.64 which doesn't have some of the comment spam enhancements as 3.0, so to manage most of my spam I just issue a few mySQL commands and delete it from the database. I know that there is a black-list for MT, but I can't be bothered to install it because I'm converting my blogs from MT to ExpressionEngine.
Welcome to the wonderful world of blogging!
Posted by admin (Graham Ellis), 10 August 2004Thanks, Cait ... you've spotted already that I'm having fun elsewhere. It's good to be forwarned about the spam issue, and Perl isn't such a problem for me
By the way - this may be a case of shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted ... but I've already written a PHP page that presents the MT Blog information in a different format. Main page at http://www.wellho.net/horse and the archive special (via PHP) at http://www.wellho.net/net/mouth.html. Let me know if you would like a copy!
Posted by Caitlinn (Caitlinn), 10 August 2004Quote:
I'm coming to realise that you are the God of Code!
Yes, I'd love to see it, thank you!
But I'm curious ...
Why would you need to write something in PHP rather designing an archive template to handle that?
For instance, it looks like your archive page follows the standard design of your main site. So I would have thought that creating an archive template that outputs, say your last x articles, and then name the output as recent.html. Then PHP include it in your main site template.
Either way, I'd love to see what you've written. I'm one of those learn-by-example kinda gals.
Posted by admin (Graham Ellis), 11 August 2004on 08/10/04 at 22:05:50, Caitlinn wrote:
That's an excellent question. I think I did it that way because it was the easiest way for me to visualise the solution, because I wanted to get some knowledge experience of what the internal tables in MT contained, because I wanted to have something that produced search-friendly pages, and because it fitted in well with our current templating system without the need to add a "wart" onto the system or duplicate a template.
Whether these points are valid reasons is open to debate and employing an MT template to generate an include file might have worked better. Didn't fully research the option once I csme up with my navigation scheme (you'll find it beaks out into a "recent posts" and "page 1 .... page n" type scheme once there are over a 25 entries).
Now ... the code ...
I've had a look and I'm NOT proud of the lack of comments in there; I fully expect to be the lifetim maintainer and to me the code is self-commenting using my standard conventions and included files, etc.
Firstly, although there's apparently a list-of-contents page at /net/mouth.html and a directory of articles, it's really all the same script, using Apache httpd rewrites:
Then there's a PHP page that looks all the messier because it's generated by a Perl script. We're moving toward content management / XML approaches but at the moment the main section of the site uses older scripts that work from files of parameters tagged in a different style to XML - it's simply that we came up with a different format for our tagging
Here's the PHP at the top of the page ... f.y.i. .... I will knock out a few things that aren't relevant / would compromise our security to have them published.
Within the main page, it's then broadly a case of just printing out the PHP variables where the snippets of HTML they include are wanted. There is an interesting extra bit there for generating links to multiple pages of contents which you'll see in action once the 26th entry has been written:
Posted by Caitlinn (Caitlinn), 11 August 2004Thanks, Graham. Your code was easy to follow -- no need for comments. And with pagination too! That's pretty slick and something that MT doesn't offer natively.
As far as search engine friendly, MT does offer a way of titling your archives, categories and individual posts in a more search engine friendly manner that the default method.
Under Weblog Config, Archiving ...
For Individual Archives:
For Monthly Archives (list of all entries for that month):
For Category Archives (listing of all entries in a specific category):
Of course the problem with dirify is that you have no option for the replacement of the whitespace character (unless you hack the Perl). You are stuck with an underscore. In some recent reading, I found that Google prefers a dash to underscore as a potential whitespace character.
Posted by admin (Graham Ellis), 11 August 2004I just wish I had more time to do all these things! No doubt I'll be learning and tuning MT more over coming weeks and months and adjusting things to push up the placement - but I think I had better write some content now
P.S. I heard that about G preferring - to _ ... personally I try to take account of these things but also make especially sure that we provide good content that's worth indexing!
Posted by Caitlinn (Caitlinn), 11 August 2004Quote:
I suspect you are! I was Googling the other day for the answer to a PHP question (can't remember the question now, though I suspect it had something to do with $_GET), and lo and behold, a wellho.net page was the second (or third) site it brought up.
Posted by admin (Graham Ellis), 11 August 2004
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