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"Do you answer questions from ANYONE on your Opentalk forum, or just from people you've trained" ... Asked by a delegate on last Friday's MySQL course.

I answer good questions from anyone. Questions from people who've been on courses tend to be excellent questions - on topic, not easily resolved by a quick look at regular reference material, and written in a language that's common to me and the questioner (the Queen's English). Questions asked by people who've not been on courses, on the other hand, tend to be fuzzier and sometimes hard to understand and sometimes I get the feeling that the questioner hasn't bothered to think that someone's giving his time up for free to answer.

You'll notice I've used the word "tend" there and it IS just that - a tendency. It's actually quite rare for a past trainee to ask a poor question / ask poorly which rather goes to show that people leave our course with a knowledge to thing and understand the subject that we've covered even if we can't possibly have answered every question they have within the handful of days they were with us. And any question of this type from someone I know can quickly by clarified / improved with an email.

I'll try to help people I don't know who ask poor questions too - but often this will be a little frustrating and these days I give up quite quickly; sorry, but I'm not going to plug through 200 lines of source code because you've reported "does not work" and not even told us what the error message is. Nor am I going to provide a complete "correspondence course" on PHP via the forum and a series of question and answers over a long period; it's simply not the best way to learn the whole subject and the questioner should really go on a course - if Melksham's not convenient, there are other courses in far flung corners of the world ...

4th December ...Adding on to here ... if people are gracious enough to "give back" - for example to follow up with "yes that worked" or "that didn't work because ..." then I've got all the time in the world for them; they're giving back to me and to the forum, helping us build up an ongoing resource that others will find (and find useful too) when they do a Google search.

If I spend a long time crafting an answer and I get nothing back - then am I going to be so keen to help that same person in the future? It really doesn't need to be much to complete a thread or a correspondence but I'll admit to being just slightly shocked at the rudeness of the guy from New Zealand who wants to set himself up as a python trainer, and the woman from Iowa who's so busy selling hosting enough for three pages at $299 a year that she hasn't the time to even say "Thanks" let alone help me complete the story her thread started to weave.

(written 2005-12-03, updated 2006-06-09)

 
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G305 - Well House Consultants - Post Course support
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  [3770] Sample answers to training course exercises - available on our web site - (2012-06-21)
  [3701] Refresh and Revision training class days - Perl / PHP / Python / Lua / Ruby / Tcl / C / C++ - (2012-04-19)
  [3419] Data that we use during our training courses, and other training resources - (2011-09-04)
  [3391] For programmers who use Internet Explorer as their browser - (2011-08-13)
  [3045] After Course Resources - do we publish sample answers. Example from Java Exceptions module. - (2010-11-13)
  [2732] Asking about Jesus - (2010-04-20)
  [2102] What do people think of our Apache httpd / Tomcat course? - (2009-03-24)
  [1874] Is it worth it? - (2008-11-07)
  [1245] Ensuring that our tutor answers YOUR questions - (2007-06-25)
  [651] Please Register with Opentalk - but just once! - (2006-03-19)
  [609] Been on a course, but still not got it? - (2006-02-16)
  [569] Instructions for bright people - (2006-01-19)
  [509] Snippets from Geekmas - (2005-11-28)
  [389] Tough Love - (2005-07-25)
  [336] Targetted Advertising - (2005-06-05)
  [327] How far should our support go - (2005-05-28)
  [293] Course follow-ups - (2005-04-27)
  [248] Use me, but use me effectively - (2005-03-16)
  [244] Getting your examples, my examples and the data files after your course - (2005-03-13)
  [199] Post course support - part of the service - (2005-02-02)
  [136] Please tell us - (2004-12-01)

G903 - Well House Consultants - Running and moderating forums and social media sites
  [4492] Almost so wrong, but perhaps it's right for some? - (2015-05-11)
  [4403] The unbalanced relationship between customer and provider - (2015-01-21)
  [4315] Welcoming genuine forum posters quickly - but turning away off topic advertisers - (2014-11-16)
  [4307] Identifying and clearing denial of service attacks on your Apache server - (2014-09-27)
  [4283] Can a legitimate forum post become illegal a year later? - (2014-07-11)
  [4239] Facebook marketing - early experiences - (2014-01-19)
  [4234] Change to Libel and Defamation laws from 1st January 2014 - (2013-12-31)
  [4065] Handling requests to a forum - the background process - (2013-04-17)
  [4025] Backups, Codebase, Strategy and more - dealing with forum incidents - (2013-03-03)
  [4017] Acceptable User Policy / vexatious interacter - (2013-02-24)
  [3910] Identifying your real customers and keeping them well informed fast - (2012-11-02)
  [3479] Practical Extraction and Reporting - using Python and Extreme Programming - (2011-10-14)
  [2820] Netiquette for forum newcomers - (2010-06-20)
  [2781] The 500 pound question to get you started - (2010-05-26)
  [2569] How to run a successful online poll / petition / survey / consultation - (2010-01-10)
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  [2526] A reluctance to move from old shoes to new - (2009-12-05)
  [2386] Computing under the influence of alcohol - (2009-08-29)
  [2254] Forum membership - a privilege not a right - (2009-06-22)
  [2177] Preventing forum spam - checks at sign up - (2009-05-12)
  [2162] Admins thoughts on banning a member from a forum - (2009-05-09)
  [2156] Stopping forum spam - control of the signup process - (2009-05-04)
  [2116] Why do we delay new forum members through authorisation? - (2009-04-03)
  [2103] Ask the Tutor - Open Source forum - (2009-03-25)
  [1972] Pettifog and forum boards away from public view - (2009-01-03)
  [1923] Making it all worthwhile - (2008-12-04)
  [1759] While the world sleeps ... - (2008-08-19)
  [1678] Software - changes and delays. But courses must run on time! - (2008-06-15)
  [1595] First Great Western Weekend - (2008-03-30)
  [1578] Please don't shout at me! - (2008-03-16)
  [1569] I dont care - goodbye - (2008-03-09)
  [1563] Guidlines for posting on a forum - (2008-03-04)
  [1539] A forum is not always the best vehicle - (2008-02-14)
  [1532] Comment spam blocked. Please comment via Forums - (2008-02-05)
  [1523] Ive just received an email from myself. Should I be worried? - (2008-01-29)
  [1485] Copyright and theft of images, bandwidth and members. - (2007-12-26)
  [1472] The Horse goes on and on - (2007-12-15)
  [1362] No Thank You - (2007-09-23)
  [1190] Save the Forum - A regular clean sweep - (2007-05-17)
  [1088] Why use BBC code not HTML? - (2007-02-21)
  [948] Running an on line campaign - (2006-11-27)
  [923] Why shouldn't I spam? - (2006-11-13)
  [919] Freedom for X is denial of privacy for Y - (2006-11-09)
  [841] Forum help - a push in the right direction - (2006-08-21)
  [828] Freedom of speech and freedom to post - (2006-08-10)
  [806] Check your user is human. Have him retype a word in a graphic - (2006-07-17)
  [424] How not to run a forum - (2005-08-24)
  [231] Feedback as lifeblood - (2005-02-28)
  [204] The confidence to allow public comments - (2005-02-06)
  [130] Spelling and grammar - (2004-11-25)
  [115] Expiration dates or times on web pages - (2004-11-12)
  [29] Silence is Golden - (2004-08-26)
  [22] Falling out over the silliest things - (2004-08-21)

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  [3743] Sunday - no longer a day of rest - (2012-05-28)
  [3553] Changes to morning routines - (2011-12-16)
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  [3125] The family is defunct. Long live the family. - (2011-01-09)
  [2868] A move towards the family - (2010-07-12)
  [2580] C course inspires new teaching examples - (2010-01-16)
  [2450] Family Gathering at 404, The Spa - (2009-10-11)
  [2401] Back Tomorrow - (2009-09-10)
  [2371] Quiet summer days? I think not! - (2009-08-22)
  [2264] Learning about others private lives - (2009-06-30)
  [2217] Enjoying the summer weather - (2009-06-04)
  [2164] Updating my public profile - Graham Ellis - (2009-05-09)
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  [2121] Out in the Vale of Pewsey - (2009-04-07)
  [2118] Spring Sprung - (2009-04-05)
  [2106] Learning to Twitter / what is Twitter? - (2009-03-28)
  [2105] Hire Car, from Atlanta Airport - (2009-03-27)
  [2090] Melksham to Georgia - (2009-03-19)
  [2068] Playing Catchup - (2009-03-06)
  [2064] East of Melksham Countryside - (2009-03-02)
  [2034] Through Snow and Flood to Linux and Tomcat - (2009-02-10)
  [2030] The final step to being British - (2009-02-07)
  [2027] Who sticks by you in the snow? - (2009-02-05)
  [2024] Carry on Training - in spite of the weather - (2009-02-03)
  [2008] The Month Ahead - What is happening in Melksham - (2009-01-25)
  [2000] 2000th article - Remember the background and basics - (2009-01-18)
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  [1953] End of Training, 2008 - (2008-12-20)
  [1810] Middle aged subsidise young and old - (2008-09-26)
  [1643] A lack of technical content - (2008-05-16)
  [1429] Remembrance day - inside a church and inside the day - (2007-11-11)
  [1303] Heading Upstate New York - (2007-08-14)
  [1272] Behind closed doors? - (2007-07-22)
  [1189] Meet, greet and welcome - (2007-05-16)
  [1178] Ducking stool for Melksham? - (2007-05-06)
  [1151] Gordon Dodge, R.I.P. - (2007-04-16)
  [1138] The Holiday - unlikely romantic comedy? - (2007-04-08)
  [1100] Wondering where I have been - (2007-03-06)
  [1061] Take vehicles off the road - put all the passengers into one - (2007-02-01)
  [1057] Selling by phone and Skype - our policy - (2007-01-30)
  [1056] Another frantic posting! - (2007-01-30)
  [992] Enthusiastic, but .... - (2006-12-16)
  [978] Wellhouse Manor, Hotel, Melksham - (2006-12-10)
  [921] French Exchange - (2006-11-11)
  [911] Letter Home - (2006-11-01)
  [908] And so to Inverness - (2006-10-29)
  [897] Too much for the National Trust - (2006-10-18)
  [882] Rocks, hard places, trains and funerals. - (2006-09-30)
  [843] To join an organisation? - (2006-08-23)
  [817] Working on Weekend in Wiltshire and others - (2006-07-29)
  [777] On Crosby sands - (2006-06-25)
  [752] Over zealous police activity? - (2006-06-09)
  [724] Helping mental health through diet, exercise and other lifestyle matters - (2006-05-18)
  [706] May day away - (2006-05-01)
  [698] Catch up weekend - (2006-04-24)
  [692] Healthier eating - (2006-04-20)
  [655] Can some food be TOO different? - (2006-03-23)
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  [645] Lost Camel - (2006-03-14)
  [635] Odd one out. - (2006-03-06)
  [623] Behind every face is a person and a story - (2006-02-25)
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  [605] Design your day with a walk - (2006-02-13)
  [584] Loosing breath with Gerald - (2006-01-31)
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  [474] Vintage Bus Day - (2005-10-23)
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  [363] Greetings from Edinburgh - (2005-06-29)
  [330] An O level comes in handy - (2005-05-30)
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  [283] Natural or man-made? - (2005-04-18)
  [271] Different course every day - (2005-04-07)
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