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Where does Wiltshire bus subsidy money come from?

I have been asked where the bus subsidy money of around 5 million pounds per annum comes from, and how it fits in with other council expenditure. Not sure if the web page at http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/council/howthecouncilworks/budgetsandspending.htm id the latest, as these chart are for the last financial year from the executive summary at http://www.wiltshire.gov.uk/financial-plan-2014-15-exec-summary.pdf, but (answering council expenditure first), transport is only 1%. It's unclear to me whther any bus subsidy falls under "Contract payments" and how much of the admin falls under "employees". [Financial report mirrored here - using a mirror so we keep a poun of reference even when the council site gets next years report]

Looking at income, 207 million council tax, central goverment grants of 67 million 'SFA' and 51 million 'BRRS' and 6 million other central grants. The chart in the report states that "Specific and Ring Fence grants are not included but do form part of the council's gross budget of almost 900 million pounds" - and as those items I've listed add up to just 331 million, there's a lot of them - or a lot of operating income ... to mke up that 900 million gross budget. I suspect a lot of that is pass-through as the net budget figure given is 333 million.

So - where does the 5 million public tranport subsidy come from? It an accountant's party to look at it in different ways. I'm told that BSOG (bus service operator's grant) is now paid to the council for subsidised services, and amounts to 3 million, and that profit from car parking and income from joint venture bus operations where a subsidised service that does better than planned returns a profit share element together are perhaps 1 million, leaving a million from the 330 million from general income, about two thirds of which is from council tax (see previous paragraph). So that works out to about [82][c2]ã1.20 per resident per annum from council tax.

I'm conscious that my figures above do not inlude ENCTS - that's bus pass payments - and I think they are probably classified as being in the gross budget (turnover); the amount (colloquilaly) has been stated as being similar to the subsidy amount - so that's around a further 5 million pounds, and it's unclear to me how tight any ringfence is. But do note that if two million journeys less are made on the bus each year on ENCTS consessions, the council pays (in very rough terms) two million pounds less to bus operators. That's a low estimate, as consessions are used on commercial as well as subsidised journeys - somewhere between 7 and 9 million journeys a year (total) of which perhaps a third to a half are subsidised.

Should cuts go ahead, I'm unsure as to whether / how many council jobs that are involved in specifying and monitoring public bus services in Wiltshire would be lost. There is a small technical team with some excellent knowledge and skill, and I would suggest that under option 24/7 those skill would be a key part of the team .. with those with prior expereince very well placed to do the jobs.

The attached charts show the graphs I refer to, and also another chart showing how Wiltshire Council have held tax down lower than other authorities - whether this the correct choice for them to have made is an interesting question; it's a political decision the effect of which is to reduce council tax bills from what they otherwise might be, but to put pressure such as we're seeing on transport and many other areas too.


 

 

 

(written 2016-01-19, updated 2016-01-20)

 
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Z300 - Politics and Religion
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  [289] MP for Devizes, Wiltshire - (2005-04-23)
  [301] General Election day, UK - (2005-05-05)
  [313] Making bona fide international marriages more difficult - (2005-05-16)
  [326] UK Tax payment totals and where the money is spent - (2005-05-27)
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  [377] A Strengthened City - (2005-07-14)
  [384] Managing conflict and disappointment - (2005-07-20)
  [415] Campaign Drift and efficiency. - (2005-08-15)
  [469] Yesterday was Kiss and Ride - (2005-10-19)
  [505] Would you steal ... petrol? ... a training course? - (2005-11-26)
  [539] rich and famous - (2005-12-23)
  [602] MP face to face - (2006-02-12)
  [607] On being British - (2006-02-14)
  [671] Both ends of the animal - (2006-04-05)
  [674] Wiltshire to get an extra MP - (2006-04-07)
  [682] Iran has enriched uranium ... - (2006-04-12)
  [696] Is than an uphill or downhill task? - (2006-04-23)
  [750] Almost everyone loses - (2006-06-07)
  [780] Separation and Integration - (2006-06-27)
  [875] Wilfred Emmanuel-Jones - (2006-09-22)
  [967] Realistic on line shoot'em up - (2006-12-05)
  [1003] Room at the Inn, Guy at the station - (2006-12-21)
  [1060] What a relief from the tax office. - (2007-02-01)
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  [1135] Government pressure on me to shut up after I make the papers - (2007-04-05)
  [1175] Local elections - choosing who to vote for - (2007-05-03)
  [1247] An afternoon at a public enquiry - (2007-06-27)
  [1260] An inspirational business talk from one of our prospective MPs - (2007-07-06)
  [1350] FSB (Federation of Small Businesses) Western Region - (2007-09-13)
  [1386] New software product for warmblooded programmers - (2007-10-10)
  [1428] Travel Across Wiltshire - the game - (2007-11-11)
  [1526] Carers at work - court case changes - (2008-02-01)
  [1573] Budget tax increases hit vehicle market - (2008-03-14)
  [1579] Rome, and the faith of Rome - (2008-03-17)
  [1729] Back from the future - (2008-07-30)
  [1769] July child ponders on August children - (2008-08-23)
  [1872] Barack Obama wins US Predidency - (2008-11-05)
  [1881] Wiltshire Council says - part 1 - (2008-11-13)
  [1882] Wiltshire Council says - part 2 - (2008-11-14)
  [1987] One Cheer for Local Democracy - Asda in Melksham - (2009-01-11)
  [2012] The Wiltshire Police - (2009-01-29)
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  [2075] Supporting Parkinsons and Trains - (2009-03-11)
  [2178] Melksham Candidates for Wiltshire Unitary Election - (2009-05-12)
  [2206] Spot the odd one out - (2009-05-29)
  [2257] Ramblings on church and state linkage in Melksham - (2009-06-25)
  [2270] Wiltshire - a chance to improve life for everybody - (2009-07-05)
  [2279] Understanding the new local government structure in Wiltshire - (2009-07-11)
  [2288] Wiltshire Community Area Partnerships - (2009-07-15)
  [2353] All change - Wiltshire Parliamentary - (2009-08-13)
  [2640] How is your tax pound spent? - (2010-02-18)
  [2689] Can my dog eat potatoes? Doggie Dietary Research, and political sleaze! - (2010-03-23)
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  [2740] Melksham Hustings at George Ward School - (2010-04-26)
  [2752] Voting day - UK General Election - (2010-05-06)
  [2757] Bodicea, Lincoln, and our new MP - (2010-05-09)
  [2792] Should Government compete with private industry? - (2010-06-03)
  [2824] A pint of Black Rat, and a lazy barman - (2010-06-25)
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  [4286] Reaction in Radstock to new First bus prices - (2014-07-12)
  [4343] Politics and the railway the connects Wiltshire - (2014-12-06)
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  [4621] The power of scripting - (2016-01-12)
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  [4667] Wiltshire Supported Bus consultation - final few days - (2016-03-30)
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  [4690] Buses in Wiltshire - potential changes and where we stand at the moment - (2016-05-30)
  [4691] Real life PHP application using our course training MVC example - (2016-06-05)
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  [4693] Wiltshire supported bus service consultation, early 2016 - interim results published - (2016-06-09)
  [4694] Supported Bus Services in Wiltshire - analysis of written-in comments - (2016-06-11)
  [4703] What do people use the bus for in Wiltshire - survey interim results. - (2016-07-11)

Z950 - Purely Personal
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  [1051] Too busy to blog it - but it's great (mostly) - (2007-01-24)
  [2195] A two day gap - first time in five years? - (2009-05-24)
  [2547] The great thing about snow .... - (2009-12-23)
  [2698] Ruth Davis, 1916 - 2010 - (2010-03-28)
  [2886] Congratulations, Kimberly - (2010-07-25)
  [2982] Travel, Transport and Tourism - A vision for Melksham, 2026 - (2010-10-03)
  [3034] Birth Notice - Aeryn Cassandra Ellis - (2010-11-07)
  [3037] Looking back and forward personally - 6 years each way - (2010-11-08)
  [3055] Zyliana Kyrei Cox - (2010-11-16)
  [3108] My First Christmas - (2010-12-26)
  [3224] Melksham Campus - a win / win opportunity, but a severely lacking decision process - (2011-03-31)
  [3240] Melksham Town Council - vacancy in the Spa Ward - (2011-04-10)
  [3283] The juggler - (2011-05-08)
  [3298] Quiet Monday in - (2011-05-23)
  [3413] If its Sunday, must it be Weymouth? - (2011-08-30)
  [3450] A threat in the post? Poor marketing practise from Smiletrain? - (2011-09-19)
  [3511] Melksham has a heart - have your picture taken and support the defibrillator appeal - (2011-11-06)
  [3556] Aeryn at 1 - (2011-12-19)
  [3566] Initial thoughts - response to GW Rail Franchise Consultation for Wiltshire - (2011-12-31)
  [3602] Emerging proposals for land to the east of Spa Road, Melksham - (2012-02-03)
  [3711] Kiss - (2012-04-28)
  [4111] Zigzag bus - forward for the future, or decaying service? - (2013-06-09)
  [4157] Wedding Photos - Kim Ellis to Kyle Londors, 22nd August 2013 - (2013-08-23)
  [4165] Improving travel advise information in Wiltshire - (2013-09-06)
  [4187] Not treading water, but not risking the ship for a 0.5th of tar either - (2013-10-06)
  [4201] Looking to the future at Melksham Station - (2013-10-26)
  [4221] Celebration of the fruits of LSTF, and of the people who have helped and are helping - (2013-12-15)
  [4235] Sharing my personal best of 2013 - (2013-12-31)
  [4281] A different vision for the future - (2014-07-09)
  [4308] What can you and I learn from online quizzes? - (2014-09-27)
  [4600] A big change in August - (2015-12-25)
  [4698] Lisa writes - on the referendum vote today - (2016-06-23)
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  [4737] Why you should vote for Lisa in Melksham Central - (2017-05-01)
  [4739] A year of changes for Lisa and Graham Ellis, and Well House - (2017-05-27)
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  [4759] Sale of effects and furniture - 12th and 13th August 2017 - (2017-07-25)
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  [4767] Some thoughts on 2017, and looking forward to 2018 - (2017-12-31)


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