Yesterday evening, I attended a wide ranging meeting and I mentioned my concerns at the markings on this footpath when we were talking about small capital highways expenditures; invited by the meeting chair to send a picture, I followed up: "Following on from yesterday evening - here is a picture of the footpath from Melksham Oak school (capacity 1400 pupils) towards the town, which is the route that the majority school children who walk have to take. The road is the A365 - a major road with lots of cars and some heavy lorries too.

We teach our children to follow / obey signs, and it is unfortunate to say the least (an accident waiting to happen?) that we're directing them if walking down a narrow band on the right (into the bushes!) or onto an 18" wide kerb between cycles and articulated trucks.

I'm amazed that such a set of markings were put in just a few months ago - and I'm suggesting that a repaint / redesignation should be done here to put the two walkways together and thus mark up a decent footpath and a decent walkway before a group of children get killed. I raised this matter with the school when the Chamber of Commerce was shown around in July, and was told that it's nothing to do with them as it's off the school site - it's up to Wiltshire Council."

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Answer have come impressively fast ... from my email:

This is of course part of the newly constructed links to Melksham Oaks School. Whilst this is not my project I did observe the Stage 3 road safety audit so I have pretty good idea of what •[99]s gone on.

From reading Mr Ellis •[99] email I think he is perhaps a little confused about what the markings actually mean and how this area is supposed to work. Firstly the path is not segregated and remains shared use, although I accept the cycle symbols on its own perhaps give the impression that it •[99]s for cyclists only.

The area to the right of the dashed white line is not a narrow walkway; it merely delineates the edge of the shared use path and works in conjunction with the buff coloured areas to highlight the adjoining private driveways. The markings here are an attempt to encourage both cyclists and pedestrians away from the adjacent vehicle accesses. The photo would indicate that it •[99]s actually working.

The markings are particularly important for vehicles emerging from the private accesses as it helps direct cyclists into the centre of the path and avoids them running too close. It was envisaged this would help reduce the likelihood of conflict. It also improves the visibility for drivers emerging to any approaching cyclist or pedestrian.

I do accept that in the absence of a clear marking for pedestrians the arrangement is a little confusing. In this instance a pedestrian (walking man symbol) alongside the cycle symbol would do the trick and help indicate that this length remains shared use for both users. Although I have to say that such a marking would not accord with the TSRGD 2002

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The author is completely correct (and somewhat kind). I'm not just confused - I hadn't understood AT ALL that a picture of a cycle in white in this way indicates that cyclists may use the marked section in addition to people on foot, who are (I stand corrected) also allowed to use it.

But, alas, this doesn't entirely remove my concerns; I suspect I'm not the only one who looks at the signage and feels that the signals it gives are not the signals it means to give. That - as it stands - some cyclists (as the chap in the picture) will feel the centre's their right of way to go whizzing through at speed, with pedestrians giving way to them. And some pedestrians will feel they're encroaching onto the cyclist's territory.

The suggestion of adding a pedestrian symbol alongside the cycle one seems - to my initial, none-expert eye - a sensible one; to me it will say that this is the safe zone for both cycles and pedestrians. That cycles should take care extra care because they're on a shared area. That pedestrians shouldn't have to move out of the way to an unsafe zone as a cycle approaches. I hope to be able to report a change in the marking ... and to be able to do so before I ever have to report on an accident caused by the current markings which we agree are "a little confusing"




Oh dear ... I spot an official digging in. Just received ...

"I only passed it your way as it will be raised as an issue at the Community Area Transport Group at the beginning of next month and if it has been the subject of a safety audit and meets current guidance then we should be in a position to deflect any criticism and explain why there is no need to make any changes."


(written 2010-09-17)

 Z511 - Public Transport - Road
  [3580] Melksham Area - buses, trains, cycles, and roads. Meeting, 17.1.2012 - (2012-01-15)
  [3579] Transport in Cambridgeshire - seen by an outside observer. What can Wiltshire learn? - (2012-01-15)
  [3564] I wish I was not a special case - (2011-12-29)
  [3523] When competition is not a good idea - Melksham Bus Absurdity - (2011-11-16)
  [3504] Coaches from Trowbridge and Melksham to London - (2011-11-01)
  [3487] Public transport - road and rail - (2011-10-19)
  [3486] How important is public transport to people in the Melksham area? - (2011-10-19)
  [3471] Vintage Bus Running Day in Warminster. An example of good bus practise. - (2011-10-09)
  [3404] Buses on the Cambridge Guided Busway - (2011-08-24)
  [3301] Using public transport - USA style - (2011-05-25)
  [3290] Changes (and no changes) at Melksham bus stops - (2011-05-15)
  [3194] Buses - what they cost and their future direction in the SW and in Wiltshire - (2011-03-06)
  [3126] Car Parking in Melksham - thoughts on the proposed scheme, and wider thoughts too - (2011-01-09)
  [2983] Strong arm tactics in the bus industry? Poor result for the customer! - (2010-10-03)
  [2982] Travel, Transport and Tourism - A vision for Melksham, 2026 - (2010-10-03)
  [2933] Bath - Melksham - Devizes buses from September - (2010-08-23)
  [2919] London to Calne, Corsham, Melksham, Bradford-on-Avon, Chippenham by public Transport - (2010-08-13)
  [2903] Bath to Devizes bus via Melksham - changing again in September - (2010-08-04)
  [2857] Park and Ride at Batheaston - will it solve Wiltshires Ills? - (2010-07-06)
  [2791] Bath to Melksham buses - times - (2010-06-03)
  [2789] Melksham to London (Heathrow, and Central London) - (2010-06-02)
  [2771] Melksham to Calne by public transport - (2010-05-20)
  [2672] Dear Planners, please provide viable alternatives - (2010-03-11)
  [2662] Is Melksham public transport actually used? - (2010-03-05)
  [2533] Five guests, three groups, one car - (2009-12-11)
  [2522] Integrated public Transport - what could be done for Melksham - (2009-12-01)
  [2515] Why we have two buses an hour - but not a half hourly service - (2009-11-28)
  [2431] Moving busstop! - (2009-09-30)
  [2372] Public Transport from (and to) Melksham on Sundays - (2009-08-23)
  [2328] Melksham - no trains, no southbound buses through the town - (2009-08-08)
  [2268] Westbury Bypass Refused - looking forward - (2009-07-04)
  [2083] Do you support a decent train service? Please sign up! - (2009-03-15)
  [2075] Supporting Parkinsons and Trains - (2009-03-11)
  [1777] The Rise and Rise of First Bus Fares - (2008-08-29)
  [1723] Bath - Melksham - Devizes. Bus route changes, new timetable - (2008-07-26)
  [1668] Talk on TransWilts train service to Green Party - (2008-06-07)
  [1567] Melksham - Swindon. Train v Bus v Car - (2008-03-07)
  [1560] HST Power Car TravelWatch SouthWest - (2008-03-01)
  [1511] Buses from Well House Manor, Melksham, to Bath - (2008-01-18)
  [1428] Travel Across Wiltshire - the game - (2007-11-11)
  [1315] Two years of campaigning for a train service - (2007-08-22)
  [1254] Comparing bus stops - (2007-07-01)
  [1125] Train service - petititon reply - (2007-03-31)
  [1085] Lawrence Webb's Melksham Taxi service - (2007-02-18)
  [818] Heard, yes. Considered, no. The case for the train. - (2006-07-30)
  [764] Journey planning - Xephos v Transport Direct - (2006-06-16)
  [474] Vintage Bus Day - (2005-10-23)
  [459] Kiss and Ride - (2005-10-09)
  [187] a popular bus number - (2005-01-23)
  [119] PHP course. Come by train. - (2004-11-15)

Z531 - Cycling and Walking
  [2707] A walk on the Kennet and Avon - (2010-04-04)
  [2666] Random thoughts on Melksham Town Planning and development - (2010-03-08)
  [3231] Footpath, Bridleway, Byway, Road used as Public Path - (2011-04-04)
  [2858] The healthy option - away from the private car - (2010-07-07)
  [3228] What can you take on a public footpath? Pram? Wheelbarrow? Dog? Shopping Trolley? Horse? Cycle? - (2011-04-03)
  [2704] A walk within without - Melksham Without - (2010-04-02)
  [3216] Images of a Spring Walk - (2011-03-27)
  [2709] Old trackways and routes near Melksham - (2010-04-05)
  [2253] Walks in and around Melksham, Wiltshire - (2009-06-21)
  [3023] Autumn walk from Bowerhill - (2010-10-31)
  [1802] Motorcycles welcome at Well House Manor - (2008-09-19)
  [2490] Friendly Hotel in Melksham, near Bath - (2009-11-02)
  [3376] Kennet and Avon - Walk from Bedwyn to Pewsey. TransWilts day out. - (2011-08-01)
  [1640] Walking on The Wiltshire Downs - (2008-05-12)

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What do these road markings mean? Could Confusion Kill?
Welcome to Countrywides new Melksham store
On site course - travel and accommodation expenses
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Railway meetings, trips and meetups this autumn
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