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JAVA-Problem-2

Posted by poutchi1 (poutchi1), 15 April 2005
Hi Graham, thanks for reading my message . I wasnt requesting/ expecting quike reply , the as soon as possible option was mentioned when i was writing my message and i only pressed it to highight my message . so no pressure.  

I tryed to check the topics you covered in FAQs but still i couldnt get to the answear . sorry it might look silly from the point of view of experts as yourself , but im really very new at this and im learning individually so its a bit confusing at times .  

hope to get an answear from you soon.  

Posted by admin (Graham Ellis), 16 April 2005
When I read the "as soon as possible" in a post, and see it posted twice, it feels a bit like pressure to me.  When I close one of the two threads and say "please stick to one thread", and yet you open another to continue the conversation in two different places, again it feels a bit like pressure to me, and it also feels like you've not really read what I wrote ... so why did I bother to write it?

I do understand how new and daunting all of this can be - as far as I can tell, you are a biologist learning to program now and, as you say, you're feeling your way.  You'll find that people are very analytical and want to work efficiently avoiding a duplication of work or un-necessary work - there's a saying that "all programmers are lazy", and I'm no exception.  So - help me to help you.

1. Please keep it to one thread (the one in Java is still open)

2. Please read the answers given / suggestions made (there are some in the other thread) and give feedback on further questions raised before we proceed; I feel I have given some short but good pointers there and I don't see that feedback. It would really help me to know the "why" behind the "not using stop()" comment, and it would really help to know a little wider about the application and what / why you're doing it as there might be good scope for alternative approaches.  Threads may be totally un-necessary in getting your answers out.

3. Please don't try to prioritise or shout your request without good cause.  I automatically answer questions "as soon as possible" anyway  

I have a huge - enormous - sympathy for people who don't live in a land where English is not the first language and appreciate that things can be mis-understood as they post in a language that they very rarely used. "I would have trouble even talking in your language" I tell them.  Alas - this doesn't really apply in the current case as these three threads have been posted from a location with 60 miles of my Wiltshire, England home.



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